{"id":5414,"date":"2013-08-02T01:00:57","date_gmt":"2013-08-02T05:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.allandouglas.com\/blog\/?p=5414"},"modified":"2025-04-21T01:56:40","modified_gmt":"2025-04-21T05:56:40","slug":"why-we-arent-on-mars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/why-we-arent-on-mars\/","title":{"rendered":"Why We Aren&#8217;t On Mars (Yet)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I wonder if we\u2019ll ever be able to grow black beans on Mars.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7391\/9401648219_4040993111_o_d.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"border: 0px none; margin: 5px;\" alt=\"Mars, HAB units, Mars Underground\" src=\"http:\/\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7391\/9401648219_036ecaefdc_n_d.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"180\" \/><\/a>This afternoon\u00a0\u2013 during the girls (and Cochise\u2019s) nap time I shelled a basket of black beans.\u00a0 The yield was about a half of a zip-lock sandwich baggie of dried beans.\u00a0 A little disappointing, but under the weather conditions we\u2019ve had&#8230; eh, better than nothing at all, and there are many more bean plants to harvest yet.\u00a0 I\u2019ll probably get a jar full to tuck away for winter soup making.\u00a0 While shelling these I watched a YouTube video called <i>Mars Underground<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>I was hoping it was a Sci-Fi movie.\u00a0 It started off like a sci-fi movie, then turned documentary.\u00a0 Then it started sounding like one of those conspiracy flicks and I expected them to say \u201cWe don\u2019t need to go to Mars, Martians are already here and in control of our Government.\u201d\u00a0 And I was prepared to believe it because that\u2019s one of the better excuses for the US government\u2019s insane behavior.\u00a0\u00a0 <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>What it turned out to be is an accounting of America\u2019s \u201cPlan\u201d to get to Mars.\u00a0 The reason I thought it was fiction at first was because NASA was laying out some pretty ambitious plans to put humans on Mars even before they had made it to the moon.\u00a0 Then they started talking about Project Mars.\u00a0 I remembered a little about that.<\/p>\n<p>The film interviews a number of people, but mostly focuses on aerospace engineer and author, Dr. Robert Zubrin who was excited by the launch of Sputnik when he was a kid, decided he wanted to be involved in space exploration and got himself a good education heavy on science and engineering.\u00a0 He landed a job with Martin Marieta (now Lockheed Martin) and set about making his dream come true.<\/p>\n<h1>The Grand Plan for Mars<\/h1>\n<p>About that time NASA started talking about a grand plan to get to Mars.\u00a0 But it involved building a base on the moon and a space station in lunar orbit where ships would be assembled that would go to Mars.\u00a0 Lots of folks got excited.\u00a0 But when they presented Congress with the 455 billion dollar price tag (making it the second most expensive project ever; just behind World War II) Congress had a coronary and kicked the plan under the table.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/farm4.staticflickr.com\/3726\/9404410872_e95ac672a1_b_d.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px none; margin: 5px;\" alt=\"Mars Direct ERV\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.staticflickr.com\/3726\/9404410872_e95ac672a1_n_d.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"180\" \/><\/a>Zubrin and his\u00a0team reviewed the now defunct plan and were amazed at the immense complexity of the monstrosity.\u00a0 Not only was it outrageously expensive, it would take many decades to complete.\u00a0 Not a viable plan in the modern world of politics where any single plan can have funding withdrawn at a moment\u2019s notice by a change in leadership.\u00a0 They came up with a plan that used off-the-shelf hardware and would put men on Mars in 10 years or less\u2026 and cost 1\/10th what NASAs plan would.\u00a0 They called it Mars Direct.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Zubrin was sent off to fly around the country to pitch the plan to NASA.\u00a0 They loved it.\u00a0 Or, the engineers did.\u00a0 When it got to the hierarchy, they snubbed it.\u00a0 Why?\u00a0 Because the Mars Direct plan snubbed their pet projects like the ISS.\u00a0 One of the reasons the NASA plan was so outrageous was that it needed to include everyone\u2019s pet project to get their support.\u00a0 So the NASA bosses kicked Mars Direct under the table.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Zubrin goes on at some length about how current (2008-2011) administration is \u201cdrawing dragons on the map\u201d to scare people away from wanting to leave L.E.O., saying \u201cIt\u2019s just too dangerous out there.\u00a0 We\u2019re not ready.\u201d\u00a0 Zubrin is probably underplaying it, NASA is probably over playing it.\u00a0 The truth is in there somewhere.\u00a0 I\u2019ve done a recent article on the <a href=\"https:\/\/PineyMountainFoster.org\/thoughts\/space-dangerous-place-to-live\/\">dangers of deep space travel<\/a>. It <i>is<\/i> dangerous.\u00a0 But so are a lot of things.\u00a0 And I\u2019ve done one of a Dutch firm that has picked up the baton and is well on the way to <a href=\"https:\/\/PineyMountainFoster.org\/thoughts\/immigrating-to-the-new-world-mars\/\">putting people on Mars<\/a>.\u00a0 The Dutch firm as a very high chance of actually doing it for two reasons:\u00a0 1) They are not involving ANY government nor asking for any public funds.\u00a0 It\u2019s all done as a private enterprise.\u00a0 2) They\u2019re not coming back.<\/p>\n<p>Not having to provide for a return trip slashes the cost by 2\/3rds.\u00a0 They\u2019re not astronauts, they\u2019re colonists.\u00a0 Anyone who signs up goes to stay.\u00a0 I wonder if Zubrin will be among them.<\/p>\n<h1>Mars: the New World<\/h1>\n<p>Dr. Zubrin draws a lot of comparisons between the push for Mars and the original discovery and settling of North America.\u00a0 Sailing the oceans at that time was very dangerous and fraught with unknowns: dragons on the map.\u00a0 Conditions aboard the ships of the day were harsh, many died.\u00a0 But they came anyway.\u00a0 Gutting the American space program after the Apollo missions was a little like Christopher Columbus coming back from his first voyage with good news and gifts only to have Queen Isabella say, \u201cNo, I\u2019ve changed my mind\u2026 burn the ships.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/farm3.staticflickr.com\/2841\/9401668441_68444fc9e7_b_d.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"border: 0px none; margin: 5px;\" alt=\"Mars, terraform\" src=\"http:\/\/farm3.staticflickr.com\/2841\/9401668441_68444fc9e7_n_d.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"180\" \/><\/a>The movie ends by going back into sci-fi mode and predicting that Mars can be made habitable again (they claim it was Earth-like 2-4 billion years ago) through terraforming: using elements in the soil to produce huge amounts of CO<sub>2<\/sub> that would be released into the atmosphere to deliberately cause a greenhouse effect, holding the sun\u2019s heat in, warming the planet, allowing the permafrost to melt and offer up liquid water, adding water vapor to the atmospheric mix (maybe even clouds), then get plants going to strengthen the whole process\u2026 and so on.<\/p>\n<p>The one glaring error I see in this dream is that Mars has a very weak magnetosphere.<\/p>\n<p>One of the things that make Earth particularly well suited to life is that it has a large, robust magnetosphere: a di-pole magnetic bubble that surrounds the planet to deflect and absorb cosmic\/solar radiation.\u00a0 It is thought that this is generated by the planet\u2019s liquid core not spinning quite as fast as the crust, two iron-rich bodies, one turning within the another acts like an electrical generator.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps Mars has cooled to the point that it is almost solid.\u00a0 Whatever the reason, the magnetosphere it generates now is so small that its boundaries are inside what a normal atmospheric shell would be for a planet that size (about half the size of Earth).\u00a0 The result is that solar winds ripped away the atmosphere as the magnetosphere shrunk in diameter.\u00a0 Before a proper atmosphere could be restored, the magnetosphere would have to be kick-started.\u00a0 Not a simple task.<\/p>\n<p>So it may be that any permanent settlers will just have to deal with an atmospheric pressure roughly equivalent to Earths \u2013 at an altitude of 35 miles.\u00a0 The Viking probes measured Mars\u2019 atmosphere at between 7 and 10 millibars, depending on weather; roughly 1\/100<sup>th<\/sup> that of Earth at sea level.<\/p>\n<p>One solution may be to find and convert caves rather than to try to build large structures on the surface.\u00a0 Several novels I\u2019ve read had settlers roofing over craters or building \u201clean-to\u201d structures against cliffs.\u00a0 Since the Martian soil does contain the components needed to make many metals as well as glass, this is not too far-fetched.<\/p>\n<p>But first, we have to get there.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think: will Humanity settle Mars?\u00a0 What will life there be like?\u00a0 And will it be a separate political entity or a colony of some government?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/74pA5YH-ehY\" height=\"315\" width=\"560\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2>Sources:<\/h2>\n<ol>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.windows2universe.org\/?page=\/mars\/atmosphere\/martian_magnetosphere.html\">Windows to the Universe<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20190204115317\/http:\/\/www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu\/personnel\/russell\/papers\/mars_mag\/\">Encyclopedia of Planetary Sciences<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=cx6cioPdPZQ&amp;list=HL1375048483\">YouTube video<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/hypertextbook.com\/facts\/2000\/LaurenMikulski.shtml\">The Physics Factbook<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h2>Want More?<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Video of NASA Mars exploration mission\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uUBhn3_P3hU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Constellation Mission to Mars<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Zubrin on Terraforming Mars\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=i5D8e71c75U\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nat. Geo. on Terraforming Mars<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"So many want to go to mars\" href=\"http:\/\/edition.cnn.com\/2013\/08\/09\/tech\/innovation\/mars-one-applications\/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">More than 100,000 Want To Go To Mars<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Where did the atmosphere and water of Mars go?\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=FlXuUxFTcLs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Asteroid That Flattened Mars<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Read he story 'Unthinkable'.\" href=\"http:\/\/seanmcmullen.net.au\/excerpts2.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">A short story that perfectly depicts this concept<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wonder if we&rsquo;ll ever be able to grow black beans on Mars. This afternoon&nbsp;&ndash; during the girls (and Cochise&rsquo;s) nap time I shelled a basket of black beans.&nbsp; The yield was about a half of a zip-lock sandwich baggie of dried beans.&nbsp; A little disappointing, but under the weather conditions we&rsquo;ve had&hellip; eh, better &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/why-we-arent-on-mars\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Why We Aren&#8217;t On Mars (Yet)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23,12],"tags":[87],"class_list":["post-5414","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-educational","category-muse","tag-space"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5414","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5414"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5414\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":21176,"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5414\/revisions\/21176"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5414"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5414"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pineymountainfoster.org\/thoughts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5414"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}